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He Said – ‘Could You?’ versions

Tuesday, January 28th, 2020

Some while back I posted about the wonderful (though of its time) He Said album, ‘Take Care’. The supporting single release for the album was the uneasy ‘Could You?’. Who knows for sure what the ‘text’ by Graham Lewis really alludes to, but for me it has always leaned towards some cryptic confession of murder/mercy killing. Despite the opaque nature of the lyric, it looks like there were high hopes for its commercial success as a single and it provides rich pickings for version craziness to be uncovered, with no less than six mix variants across the ‘Could You?’/’Could You (Too)’ main variants.

He Said - Could You? - UK 12 inch single front sleeve design.

^ He Said – Could You? – UK 12 inch single front sleeve design.

By my count, these are the versions that exist, at least those I have come across on my travels – as ever, all timings are approximate and intended as a rough guide to the variations in duration across the mixes:

  • ‘Could You?’ (LP version) 5’45”
  • ‘Could You? (Too)’ 6’04” (wrongly listed as a duration of 5’45” on the UK CD case)
  • ‘Could You?’ (UK and West German Single Edit) 4″44″
  • ‘Could You?’ (UK 7″ Promo ‘Radio Edit’ and US CD Promo ‘German Edit’) 3’27”
  • ‘Could You? (Too)’ (US Edit from US CD Promo) 5’08”
  • ‘Could You?’ (‘Stumme Dokument’ Mute CD Promo edit) 4’08”

Are there any more out there?

He Said - Could You? - UK 12 inch single rear sleeve design.

^ He Said – Could You? – UK 12 inch single rear sleeve design.

He Said - Could You? - UK 12 inch single A side label design.

^ He Said – Could You? – UK 12 inch single A side label design.

He Said - Could You? - UK 12 inch single B side label design.

^ He Said – Could You? – UK 12 inch single B side label design.

As to where these edits all belong, it’s worth noting the following;

  • The ‘LP version’ is obviously what appeared on the ‘Take Care’ album. You’d be tempted to think perhaps it is also what was used on the various 12″ single versions too, right? But not so. Instead, the 12″ single A sides featured…
  • …’Could You? (Too)’ – as well as the A sides of the 12″ single releases, this was also included on CD editions of the LP. ‘Could You (Too)’ is quite a different mix compared to the regular version of the track with extensive additonal overdubs in the way of piano, additional keyboards, guitar and drum programming.
  • A shorter single edit of ‘Could You?’ was used on the 7″ singles and also on the B side of the 12″ singles (along with the other B side, ‘He Said:She Said’ – it is just listed as ‘Could You?’ on the sleeves and labels though, no mention made of it being an edit. This edit of ‘Could You?’ is quite subtle, with deft editing scissors shortening sections of the track and leaving the overall structure in place.
  • A further, more drastically chopped and changed edit is what is to be foound on the UK promo 7″ as the ‘Radio Edit’ and also on the US promo CD as the ‘German Edit’. Despite the different titles, they sound the same to my ears. Why ‘German Edit’? Could be because Paul Kendall was responsible for the edit – perhaps at Hansa Tonstudio maybe? This edit plays around with the structure of the track a good deal more and starts off on a more rhythmic assault, before the gentler aspects of the first verse appear.
  • The ‘US Edit’ of ‘Could You’ is unique to the US promo CD and nowhere else – and in fact, it is an edit of ‘Could You? (Too)’, not ‘Could You?’.
  • Finally, a Mute records promo compilation, ‘Stumme Dokument’ features another unique edit, though nothing to get overly excited about – it is just the regular single edit but with a much earllier fade out.

The eagle-eyed with copies of the Belgian 12” may notice an odd duration listing… read more on that much further elbow.

He Said - Could You? - UK 7 inch Radio Edit' Promo single front sleeve design.

^ He Said – Could You? – UK 7 inch ‘Radio Edit’ Promo single front sleeve design.

He Said - Could You? - UK 7 inch 'Radio Edit' Promo single rear sleeve design.

^ He Said – Could You? – UK 7 inch ‘Radio Edit’ Promo single rear sleeve design.

He Said - Could You? - UK 7 inch Radio Edit' Promo single A side label design.

^ He Said – Could You? – UK 7 inch ‘Radio Edit’ Promo single A side label design.

He Said - Could You? - UK 7 inch 'Radio Edit' Promo single B side label design.

^ He Said – Could You? – UK 7 inch ‘Radio Edit’ Promo single B side label design.

The UK ‘Radio Edit’ promo single 7″ that features a drastically re-edited version of the A side has a few things to note round the packaging. The label credits appear to have been based on the 12″ design – so, it mistakenly refers to ‘Could You? (Too)’ on the A side label, while the B side lists both ‘Could You?’ and ‘ He Said: She Said’ – it is only the latter track that is included on the record though.

He Said - Could You? - US Promo CD single front sleeve design.

^ He Said – Could You? – US Promo CD single front sleeve design.

He Said - Could You? - US Promo CD single disc label design.

^ He Said – Could You? – US Promo CD single disc label design.

Before signing off, it is worth clarifying about the Belgian 12” single. The labels on that edition states that the A side of ‘Could You? (Too)’ runs for 6’15” (i.e. longer than usual) while on the B side the version of ‘Could You?’ runs for 5’45” (as with the album version). In fact, it is the regular version of ‘Could You? (Too)’ on side A, while the B side has the 7” edit of ‘Could You?’ just like the various other 12” single releases.

Siouxsie and the Banshees – ‘Cities In Dust’ (Bob Rock Remix) US 7” (Wonderland/Geffen, 7-28813, 1986)

Tuesday, January 14th, 2020

This little curio has passed me by until recent times I must admit, since to my knowledge this particular remix has never been re-issued on CD format at all. For its release in the United States, Geffen Records had a remix of ‘Cities In Dust’ made and it found its way on to this 7” single as well as a regular edition 12” EP edition and promo-only 12” single. Given that the sleeve and label credits quite clearly namecheck the ‘Tinderbox’ LP, I would wager that this single release is from 1986 rather than the UK’s original late 1985 debut – but as I say, this particular variation passed me by altogether, so anyone else who knows for sure is more than welcome to comment.

Siouxsie and the Banshees - ‘Cities In Dust’ (Bob Rock Remix) US 7” - front sleeve design

^ Siouxsie and the Banshees – ‘Cities In Dust’ (Bob Rock Remix) US 7” – front sleeve design

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Side by side: New Order – ‘Ceremony’ 2019 12” reissues and 1981 originals

Saturday, December 28th, 2019

Rounding off 2019, time to look back to earlier in the year and also 1981, with New Order’s ‘Ceremony’ re-issues and originals (at least the UK 12” ones anyway).

New Order - Ceremony - 2019 UK 12 inch version 1 re-issue front sleeve design.

^ New Order – Ceremony – 2019 UK 12 inch version 1 re-issue front sleeve design.

Accompanying the super deluxe box set re-issue of the ‘Movement’ album, the bands first four 12” single releases were re-pressed and issued afresh in March 2019 to support it. Let’s not get into the whole debate on whether this was a rather odd way of going about things, given that the super deluxe box set did not include any of the recordings from these 12” singles… Ho hum. And when I say the first four… well, two of these are versions of the one song, ‘Ceremony’, of course. (more…)

New Order – ‘Confusion’ UK Promo 7″ (Factory FAC93, 1983)

Thursday, November 14th, 2019

A unique 4’08” edit of ‘Confusion’, released as a promo-only 7″ contemporary with the original release of the single, which commercially was only available on 12″, released August 1983. This 4’08” ‘re-structure’ is to be found on both sides of the single, same labels each flip too and it all comes housed in a black, round hole cut-out sleeve. Somewhat plain in comparison to the now somewhat iconic 12” sleeve design.

New Order - Confusion UK promo 7" single

^ New Order – Confusion UK promo 7″ single

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Joy Division – ‘Unknown Pleasures’ UK CD (Factory FACD10, 1986)

Monday, October 28th, 2019

Sometimes it is enough just to celebrate something for what it is without needing to explore any obscure variations. With this post, I focus on the first time Joy Division’s wonderful ‘Unknown Pleasures’ made an appearance on CD and where Factory attempted to overcome the tyranny of the ’80s CD jewel case and somehow tap into the spirit of the original sleeve design.

For starters, the ‘car carry case’ – a miniaturised revision of the original sleeve design. Shorn of any need to include the tracklisting on the reverse, it kept things minimal. The tracklisting was provided only on one of the jewel case inserts. Yes, in addition to the carry case, the CD jewel case comes with not one but two inserts. Both of which come printed on similar ‘textured’ card stock to that used on the original album sleeve and the car carry case this time round. I hope that the photos help to capture the textured card stock so you can see for yourself.

One odd thing about it though – at some point in the design process, it looks like the photograph from one side of the inner sleeve has gone awol from this redesign – the originally uncredited photo, ‘Hand Through a Doorway‘ by Ralph Gibson.

Joy Division 'Unknown Pleasures' original UK CD car carry case - front.

^ Joy Division ‘Unknown Pleasures’ original UK CD car carry case – front.

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